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PostSubject: Lena''s race?   Fri 22 May 2009, 9:36 am

I was putting information into my new site, when I came across this:

Which race does Lena Lena (and her sister Amu Ahm ) belong to? scratch

This might be an interesting article to listen to different fan-opinions (and it might be good info for fanfic writers wink )

As far as we know, after Valis 3, people of Darkworld and Dreamland united and lived together, and were ruled by the new young princess Valna Valna . So Lena Lena and her sister Ahm might be dreamlanders, but there is an equivalent chance that both originally might be from the Dark World, just like Cham Cham !! wtf

IMO, I think they're deamlanders, but I have no evidence heh-heh
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Fri 22 May 2009, 2:31 pm

Well, I always puts Rena and Amu are from Vecanti in my fics, but I don't specific the race, whatever, Kenji and others ones are called as "humans".

In some cases, Rena is called as a "valkyrie" in my fics. heh-heh
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Fri 22 May 2009, 8:35 pm

yeah.. kenji.. now he's an official valis character ... like amara? like amatsuki? like natsuko? oh fuck! too much spoiler here tongue
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Fri 22 May 2009, 10:34 pm

SO would that make Cham Vecantian (im just making up race names) So would Yuko of Valis 3 Valna and Valia be humans....well yeah and yet a Dreamlander......im confused wtf
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Fri 22 May 2009, 10:41 pm

humans are dreamers.. so any people of dreamland could be humans.. don't you think? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Fri 22 May 2009, 10:52 pm

From what I understand, Vencanti is basically another name for the Dark World. (I know the Dark/Yin/Negative power in Valis-lore is known as "Vencanta", so I would make sense). Cham is a Vencantian, and her tribe/sub-race is Oni (or Ogre).

Lena and Ahm I believe are Dreamlanders (or Vanitians? I know the main palace of Dreamland is known as "Vanity", but could Vanity also be another name for Dreamland too?). However, I doubt they are from the Human World/Reality. Then again, I don't think they ever really mentioned their origins in the game or the instruction book. I find it rather sad, because I'm certain that if Telenet had made a sequel (prequel?) to Valis IV, perhaps we could have learned more of Lena's (and Ahm's/Amu's) orgins.
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Fri 22 May 2009, 10:57 pm

poor people of telnet.. they didn't think that people like us would think so deep about this things heheheh Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Fri 22 May 2009, 11:14 pm

iannafei wrote:
From what I understand, Vencanti is basically another name for the Dark World. (I know the Dark/Yin/Negative power in Valis-lore is known as "Vencanta", so I would make sense). Cham is a Vencantian, and her tribe/sub-race is Oni (or Ogre).

Lena and Ahm I believe are Dreamlanders (or Vanitians? I know the main palace of Dreamland is known as "Vanity", but could Vanity also be another name for Dreamland too?). However, I doubt they are from the Human World/Reality. Then again, I don't think they ever really mentioned their origins in the game or the instruction book. I find it rather sad, because I'm certain that if Telenet had made a sequel (prequel?) to Valis IV, perhaps we could have learned more of Lena's (and Ahm's/Amu's) orgins.


Thats one hot Ogre!
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Fri 22 May 2009, 11:15 pm

Keisuke Nonohara wrote:
poor people of telnet.. they didn't think that people like us would think so deep about this things heheheh Very Happy

come'on we can do a better job then they can
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Fri 22 May 2009, 11:24 pm

I think.. everyone can do a better job than telenet japan

this people were the usual group that only made a platform game with no content at all

with posterior games/secuels they're forced to make some kind of story background..

I'm sorry to say that the full content of VALIS is pretty shallow..
fanfics and similar stuff make more rich the story concept

is just like streetfighter 2 world warrior.. a complete storyless game..

I like valis somehow (thanks to shadowblade) but the true is that all of the TELENET effort to make some story for VALIS was pretty lame.. eh
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Sat 23 May 2009, 10:35 am

Keisuke Nonohara wrote:
humans are dreamers.. so any people of dreamland could be humans.. don't you think? Razz

Reiko Reiko is a human but she was on the dark side, so i guess that goes against your point lol!
nice approach anyway chu

iannafei wrote:
I know the main palace of Dreamland is known as "Vanity", but could Vanity also be another name for Dreamland too?).

I believe it's clear in the game (somehow) that Vanity is the castle chu
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Sat 06 Jun 2009, 3:44 am

Nice opinions out there!!! I'm working on a story too...
(it has been a long time Embarassed )
where I wrote my thoughts about Lena and Ahm origins...
from my point of view, they hafta be Dreamlanders... geek

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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Thu 25 Feb 2010, 10:12 pm

I think it's safe to say Lena, Amu, Yuko and Valna are Dream Worlders while Cham, Adrian (unofficially wink ), Rogles, Zalude, Magus, Glames, Asfal and Gallagher* (*from SV4 for the snes) would be Dark Worlders or Vecantian.


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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Sun 28 Feb 2010, 11:49 pm

There's nothing wrong with the Valis canon, what's wrong is the translations done for the US releases that has caused the confusion.

There is no such confusion in the original japanese text.

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yeah.. kenji.. now he's an official valis character ... like amara? like amatsuki? like natsuko? oh fuck! too much spoiler here

Your Valis work is a fan project it is in no way canon, please don't call it Valis canon, this spreads misinformation that makes it even MORE difficult to find the real canon within the Valis universe.

One topic: Didn't the translations I provided awhile back from the Valis 4 manual specifically state Lena's origins? I was pretty sure it did but I could be wrong
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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Mon 01 Mar 2010, 1:39 am

Fou-Lu wrote:
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yeah.. kenji.. now he's an official valis character ... like amara? like amatsuki? like natsuko? oh fuck! too much spoiler here

Your Valis work is a fan project it is in no way canon, please don't call it Valis canon, this spreads misinformation that makes it even MORE difficult to find the real canon within the Valis universe.

Eh, I thought he was being sarcastic scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Lena's race?   Mon 01 Mar 2010, 11:23 am

Fou-Lu wrote:


Your Valis work is a fan project it is in no way canon, please don't call it Valis canon, this spreads misinformation that makes it even MORE difficult to find the real canon within the Valis universe.

Please don't confunding, I already know my work is fan work, he's only was sarcastic.
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