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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:10 am

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Nice drawing Adrian, but I'm sorry, since these pics are not related to Valis, these should be in another topic (plz don't take it personal)

Found some pics on Pixiv.net, enjoy chu


Thanks...and don't worry I understand Cool . Those are some nice pictures but I love this one the most happy heart
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Sun 25 Sep 2011, 10:56 am

Finally they updated that pic, and i love it!
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:42 pm

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Found some pics on Pixiv.net, enjoy chu



Let's see, Yuko Ahso, Raidou Kuzunoha, and Raichu playing Sakura Wars V? Awesome. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Fri 30 Sep 2011, 12:45 pm

As requested by MMmT101...

Spoiler:
 

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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Fri 30 Sep 2011, 12:49 pm

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As requested by MMmT101...

Spoiler:
 


Nice one! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Fri 30 Sep 2011, 12:55 pm

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Lord Adrian wrote:
As requested by MMmT101...

Spoiler:
 


Nice one! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Fri 30 Sep 2011, 4:37 pm

The only little complaint is the vine around the leg, it kinda negates the quicksand, just a little bit. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Fri 30 Sep 2011, 5:13 pm

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The only little complaint is the vine around the leg, it kinda negates the quicksand, just a little bit. Razz

No unless it helping out by pulling her down Extemely Happy .
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Fri 30 Sep 2011, 5:19 pm

Hmmm, if it was doing that, it'd be coming from within the sand. Looks like it's from outside to me. But if it were to be inside the sand, it'd start to become borderline henti-ish I think. eh

But again, my personal opinion or critiquing.
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Fri 30 Sep 2011, 5:26 pm

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Hmmm, if it was doing that, it'd be coming from within the sand.

I didn't think about doing that Embarassed heh-heh .
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Wed 05 Oct 2011, 5:12 am

new fanart Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Wed 05 Oct 2011, 8:57 am

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new fanart Very Happy


VERY nice artwork---I do find it funny that Yuko is position just right to cover up Reiko's privet reigon (Giggity) lol . Other then that it's a very nice picture Chu .
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Wed 05 Oct 2011, 10:06 am

We’ve already seen that Yuko, and Reiko looks... pretty weird. Suspect I prefer the original version with just Yuko.
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 7:17 am

All images hotlinked from my website has been deleted, so some might be broken now, sorry but I have to delete them for this new major update on evilReiko.com

You might be interested to look at this, Valis III intro image colored by me Smile :



There are many other NEW fan-art of Valis, check out http://www.evilreiko.com/valis/pictures/
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 10:39 am

very good! it reads genesis quality
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 11:54 am

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All images hotlinked from my website has been deleted, so some might be broken now, sorry but I have to delete them for this new major update on evilReiko.com

You might be interested to look at this, Valis III intro image colored by me Smile :

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There are many other NEW fan-art of Valis, check out http://www.evilreiko.com/valis/pictures/

Looks great. One thing I always wondered is why does Yuko morn the loss of Reiko? Cause during the intro she seems more wierded out by her and really dosen't want anything to do with her. For this case it never made since to me why she would morn the loss of an enemy cause even in the Turbo Duo or the PC version---Reiko wants to down right kill her---no mercy...You know what---this morning scene between Yuko of Valis 1 and Reiko now makes no since scratch !
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:36 pm

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One thing I always wondered is why does Yuko morn the loss of Reiko? Cause during the intro she seems more wierded out by her and really dosen't want anything to do with her. For this case it never made since to me why she would morn the loss of an enemy cause even in the Turbo Duo or the PC version---Reiko wants to down right kill her---no mercy...You know what---this morning scene between Yuko and Reiko now makes no sense scratch !

According to the intro of Valis III, Reiko was Yuko’s best friend who was just under the control of Rogles. However, I take anything stated as fact in the Valis storyline with a nice grain of salt.

Out of nowhere, Yuko’s supposed best friend announces to her that she is leaving town, and can scarcely assure her that they’ll ever see each other again, and Yuko’s reaction is just like “What the heck? You’re weird. Bye.”

I think if that was really her best friend she’d have run after her or at least seemed to care more. Otherwise, if that’s her best friend then I wonder what her other friends are like? XD

Who knows? Maybe something was lost in translation, or the devs started out thinking Reiko was just a classmate, then someone got the bright idea of adding an emotional scene and was too lazy to modify the rest of the story accordingly.
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 1:20 pm

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According to the intro of Valis III, Reiko was Yuko’s best friend who was just under the control of Rogles. However, I take anything stated as fact in the Valis storyline with a nice grain of salt.

Out of nowhere, Yuko’s supposed best friend announces to her that she is leaving town, and can scarcely assure her that they’ll ever see each other again, and Yuko’s reaction is just like “What the heck? You’re weird. Bye.”

I think if that was really her best friend she’d have run after her or at least seemed to care more. Otherwise, if that’s her best friend then I wonder what her other friends are like? XD

Who knows? Maybe something was lost in translation, or the devs started out thinking Reiko was just a classmate, then someone got the bright idea of adding an emotional scene and was too lazy to modify the rest of the story accordingly.

THANK YOU---this is excatly my point cheers !!! Yuko of Valis 1 frist apperes to not really care that much for Reiko and maybe even a little weirded out by her then after Yuko of Valis 1 kills Reiko now they're best friends and she morns for her...sorry don't buy it. I mean it would be ok if Yuko stood above Reiko's dead body felt sorry for her but morning as if you just killed your best of best friends----NO.
I think you're right something did get lost in traslation or lazy writing.

You know after watching Red Letter Media's review of SW II and his rant on Anakin and Padme's "relashionship", I've been real picky about how fantasy characters develop there relashionships...just ask me what I think about Adora's and Sea Hawks (on my She-Ra thread of course) "relashionship" .
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 1:42 pm

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Who knows? Maybe something was lost in translation, or the devs started out thinking Reiko was just a classmate, then someone got the bright idea of adding an emotional scene and was too lazy to modify the rest of the story accordingly.

Or, you know, it's easy to rationalize killing monsters, but Reiko was just another schoolgirl Yuko's age who made the bad choice, and Yuko realizes that killing Reiko was still a horrible thing to do even if it was necessary. She's still having nightmares about it in Valis II, after all.
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 2:03 pm

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SuperSailor7 wrote:

Who knows? Maybe something was lost in translation, or the devs started out thinking Reiko was just a classmate, then someone got the bright idea of adding an emotional scene and was too lazy to modify the rest of the story accordingly.

Or, you know, it's easy to rationalize killing monsters, but Reiko was just another schoolgirl Yuko's age who made the bad choice, and Yuko realizes that killing Reiko was still a horrible thing to do even if it was necessary. She's still having nightmares about it in Valis II, after all.

IDK Yuko did kill Reiko out self defence. I mean if someone came up to me and kept threating to kill me or wanted me dead. I'd kill the S.O.B and not think twice about it (better them then me right?). I'd still feel bad about taking another person's life but I wouldn't morn the loss of someone as if I just killed my very best friend. So it's either a bad case of character relationship writing or the writers really didn't have any real idea how to solve the scene without making Yuko look like a cold non-caring character.
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 2:09 pm

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IDK Yuko did kill Reiko out self defence. I mean if someone came up to me and kept threatening to kill me or wanted me dead. I'd kill the S.O.B and not think twice about it (better them then me right?). I'd still feel bad about taking another person's life but I wouldn't morn the loss of someone as if I just killed my very best friend. So it's either a bad case of character relationship writing or the writers really didn't have any real idea how to solve the scene without making Yuko look like a cold non-caring character.

The thing, is, Reiko wasn't some manner of street thug or other stranger, and the two had likely at least seen each other every day for quite a while.

It's also a conceit in most magical girl productions that the protagonist is an innocent, if sometimes quirky teenager whose perspective is entirely flipped by revelations about the kind of world they actually live in. You're a grown man who has been around for a bit, but this kind of thing isn't at all about what you would do in the least. That's the essence of fiction, after all.
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 2:34 pm

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The thing, is, Reiko wasn't some manner of street thug or other stranger, and the two had likely at least seen each other every day for quite a while.

It's also a conceit in most magical girl productions that the protagonist is an innocent, if sometimes quirky teenager whose perspective is entirely flipped by revelations about the kind of world they actually live in. You're a grown man who has been around for a bit, but this kind of thing isn't at all about what you would do in the least. That's the essence of fiction, after all.

It still falls under character relationship devleopment, Yuko might have been innocent but she's killed several of Rogles's people so far, at this point she should be used at seeing and dealing out death by now. But my point is she goes from not really caring that much for or even maybe a little creeped out at Reiko (even if they are friends and classmates they didn't apper that close in their friendship) to all the sudden "Oh my God---Reiko my dear friend what have I've done...?"

It may make Yuko appere innocent but it's like SS7 said
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"Out of nowhere, Yuko’s supposed best friend announces to her that she is leaving town, and can scarcely assure her that they’ll ever see each other again, and Yuko’s reaction is just like “What the heck? You’re weird. Bye.”
...the way I see it-it would have been better if Yuko stood over Reiko dead body and saying something on the line of I honor you blah blah blah...then to have scene where Yuko's crying over someone who wanted nothing more but to see her dead. I mean if Reiko won the fight and Yuko poured her heart out, Reiko would have finished her off even before Yuko finnished her speech.
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 5:14 pm

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Looks great. One thing I always wondered is why does Yuko morn the loss of Reiko? Cause during the intro she seems more wierded out by her and really dosen't want anything to do with her. For this case it never made since to me why she would morn the loss of an enemy cause even in the Turbo Duo or the PC version---Reiko wants to down right kill her---no mercy...You know what---this morning scene between Yuko of Valis 1 and Reiko now makes no since scratch !

"Valis I" Intro cutscene :
Yuko & Reiko known each, merely as classmates, not friends or best friends

"Valis I" after defeating Reiko cutscene :
The last attack, Reiko allows Yuko to attack her (sucidical act). In this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EcT41mivSw , in 0:52, first thing Yuko says is: "You didn't fight your best on purpose". After explaining her story and saying her last words, Yuko understood why Reiko always hated people and friends and always treated people badly. Just before Reiko dies, they become best friends, for a short moment.

Valis III into cutscene:
They mention that Yuko had to kill her best friend. (She became her best friend AFTER defeating her)


I went through these lines millions of times lol
Does it make sense now?
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 8:17 pm

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"Valis I" Intro cutscene :
Yuko & Reiko known each, merely as classmates, not friends or best friends

"Valis I" after defeating Reiko cutscene :
The last attack, Reiko allows Yuko to attack her (sucidical act). In this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EcT41mivSw , in 0:52, first thing Yuko says is: "You didn't fight your best on purpose". After explaining her story and saying her last words, Yuko understood why Reiko always hated people and friends and always treated people badly. Just before Reiko dies, they become best friends, for a short moment.

That actally makes it worse and strengthens my case about Yuko and Reiko's bad character relationship devlopment lol . If Yuko and Reiko where just classmates in the beginning and only became friends AFTER Yuko killed Reiko (even if it was for a short time)---after all the death Yuko has seen and delt, I'm sure that the death of Reiko would bairly cause her greef, maybe pity----I can see pity or feeling sorry for her but not heavy morning. IDK IMHO it would have been better if the scene where rewriten showing Yuko silently looking over Reiko's dead body (or grave) and saying something honorable then just acting like she lost the most importaint person in her life----but that's just me Cool .
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Tue 25 Oct 2011, 9:03 pm

I agree with everyone’s points at the same time Smile

Despite having taken out some humanoid boss characters before that, Reiko may have been the first actual “normal” human that Yuko killed. Accordingly, I agree with Ry that Yuko’s mourning mainly just goes with her image as a fanservice character -- and it also exists to give the scene more impact. That scene is half of what makes Valis 1 memorable, like the logic or not.

And again, I really can’t see Yuko seriously being best friends with someone who herself admits to being entirely dedicated to the art of making people miserable. Reiko even says she was mean to Yuko and we have no reason to believe otherwise. Her mourning is almost certainly just her being sensitive. tongue
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Wed 26 Oct 2011, 2:01 am

Hey Reiko, can I submit my fanfic to your page possibly? It features the sword of Valis in the first couple of chapters.
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Sat 29 Oct 2011, 6:40 am

Found something interesting on pixiv.net! Check it out Very Happy
I've uploaded it to evilreiko.com because pixiv.net don't allow hotlinking, and don't allow viewing full-size images unless user is logged in

http://www.evilreiko.com/valis/pictures/74/sketch-remake-of-valis-1-intro-cutscene-yuko-ahso-reiko-kirishima-fan-art
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Sat 29 Oct 2011, 11:15 am

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Found something interesting on pixiv.net! Check it out Very Happy
I've uploaded it to evilreiko.com because pixiv.net don't allow hotlinking, and don't allow viewing full-size images unless user is logged in

http://www.evilreiko.com/valis/pictures/74/sketch-remake-of-valis-1-intro-cutscene-yuko-ahso-reiko-kirishima-fan-art

IDK who did that but it looks like a professinal storyboard, the person who did that did an excellent job Shocked !
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 7:32 am

I found 2 awesome videos:

Real Sword of Valis Very Happy :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq3wLJJsNNw

Longplay Valis PC-8801 (2:33:00):
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PostSubject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT!   Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:11 am

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I found 2 awesome videos:

Real Sword of Valis Very Happy :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq3wLJJsNNw

A wooden Valis Sword ? Well give it a little paint and a jewel in the middle and you got yourself a nice replica....or make one out of metal---now that would be something What a Face . Cool video BTW Cool .
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