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PostSubject: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sun 04 Nov 2007, 5:50 am

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Tokei News reports that Telenet Japan, once famous for games such as Valis and Arcus has closed down after 24 years in the business. Apparently selling their game properties to hentai game makers wasn't enough to keep the company going.

They had been focusing on the pachinko business recently and recorded 452 million yen in sales last year in March but their profits were bad and they continued to be in constant debt. Strategies such as selling their gaming properties and selling their stock holdings in order to rebuild the company's financial ability reached a limit and they could no longer keep the company going.

<Brandon's note:> As of the closing date, only 18 people were still working for Telnet, which is pretty sad, considering its heyday. There's some vague stuff in here too, like talk of a failed U.S. subsidiary game center, which I can't even imagine anyone thinking was a good idea. I wonder who, if anyone, will buy the rights to their legacy titles? They had lots of good games in the 80s and 90s...I guess 3D killed them. That and Wolf Team going away, and their SFC RPGs not really taking off. They mention that they worked on a lot of the Tales games in their company profile. Unfortunately their history is updated only to 2001, but they did make Angel Golf and some idol mahjong games after that. Even more curious, they don't list Valis or Arcus as franchises they own - did they sell the rights completely? That would be quite distressing. The last game in the old style I've seen evidence of from them is Valis for mobile remake, but that may have been developed by Bandai. Must've been a depressing last few days around the offices, with all your licenses gone, and mountains of debt.

<Recap's note:> Telenet indeed 'worked' on many 'Tales of' games, since they co-owned Tales Team along with Namco till not too long ago. Let's not forget that Tales Team was formed up from some ex Wolf Team staff. And being honest, Telenet never released a truly remarkable quality title which wasn't signed by Wolf Team. It was the dissolution of this developer what actually put an end to Telenet's relevance as a video-game company.

So, now we know that Valis X was a desperate measure Telenet took just to stay alive...

And it's interesting to see that they don't own the Valis property. I wonder who does? I hope it's not the H Game company. And I wonder it this will affect the release of the next Valis manga? I hope Valis ends up in the hands of someone who'll treat it well.
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sun 04 Nov 2007, 11:57 am

Hmm, Valis not listed as a franchise they own with nobody else claiming it, eh? Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sun 04 Nov 2007, 10:04 pm

lol! lol! lol!

this is just so funny.

they didn't know what to do, so, they make Valis X just to get quick-and-lots of money.. stupid people

I think.. the mobile game is very well-designed, but they put alot of limitations to it, like: only japanese-mobiles can play this game <--- that itself is just a big limitation ugh

and the most funny, since the 90s, Telenet has been focusing on producing stupid silly games, and they never realized they what they are producing is stupid, 'til they were already finished off <--- at that time, they returned again to produce something for Valis ugh

and.. I disagree about what Brandon said about 3D against Telenet. Because, Telenet produced alot of 3D games (but those 3D games were also stupid games, like golf ugh <--- who plays such games ugh )

anyway, if no on has the right to own Valis.... does this mean I can produce my anime of Valis without copyright issues eee
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sun 04 Nov 2007, 10:49 pm

VALIS GOLF.

LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Mon 05 Nov 2007, 10:29 am

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Hmm, Valis not listed as a franchise they own with nobody else claiming it, eh?

I would say that Kill Time currently owns Valis.




The Valis page on Comic Valkyrie's site has "copyright 2006 Kill Time Communications" printed on the Valis header image. (It says "<something> Nihon Telenet" underneath "ZOL" at the bottom left, but no copyright markings) And they are right in the middle of using that property, with Valis' run in Comic Valkyrie and the new compilation book.

Another interesting thing is that the Valis X page on Eants' site has Valis X listed as "(C)TERENET JAPAN 2006/eants inc 2006" where Arcus X is "(C)TELENET JAPAN 2007/eants Inc. 2007". I wonder if the spelling differences are intentional? I sure hope Eants doesn't own any of Valis, Kill Time's been treating it well so far. Or, maybe Telent sold it to a holdings company or something, and Kill Time's been licensing it from them? We may never know. It'd be awesome if Falcom got the rights to Valis. They'd do it right!

Interesting, according to their website, (still up!) Telenet Japan Co. LTD was established on October 27, 1958. I wonder what they did back then?
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Mon 05 Nov 2007, 2:33 pm

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VALIS GOLF.
LOL.
lol lol HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!!!! lol lol
You got a point there!!!! lol!

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I wonder if the spelling differences are intentional? I sure hope Eants doesn't own any of Valis, Kill Time's been treating it well so far. Or, maybe Telent sold it to a holdings company or something, and Kill Time's been licensing it from them?
I think the second option is the right one....
surely someone else owns Valis, and Kill Time is paying a bit to publish their comic...
is there a way we can check this?
Imagine we could buy Valis!!! eee

from my point of view, the fact Telenet closed, is perfect... chu
Now we can expect from someone else a good Valis game!!!

We have Hope again! Chu

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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Mon 05 Nov 2007, 10:04 pm

What Wikipedia said about Telenet Rolling Eyes

take a look:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenet_Japan

if you can notice in that link, Telenet was able to produce a well-designed great-graphics amazing-sounds PS2 games (but as I told you, they were very stupid silly games)

take a look at the official trailer of that stupid golf game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1YDG5Q_Yeg

and this is another video of the gameplay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo-WGVhYBQY

you see.. Telenet is... or was able to produce super 3D PS2 games, but they chose the worst type of games to develop (I guess all developers are really old now, that's why they make games for old people lol )

is there any one in here plays golf (either in real or video game) ugh

I don't even consider golf as a game or sport, it's nothing, it's silly ugh



wait.. take alook at another game developed by Telenet.. another PS2 game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwulphFF1rk

yeah... that was a PS2 game ugh .. they prefered developing something like that instead of something similar to Valis ugh



if they have been producing lately such games, that's no-wondering why Telenet closed
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Tue 06 Nov 2007, 1:42 am

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VALIS GOLF.

LOL.

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAA!!!!! That was hilarious! I just wish we had the :ROFL: smiley here so I didn't have to type in "Bahahaha... and so on". XD

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Hmm, Valis not listed as a franchise they own with nobody else claiming it, eh?

I would say that Kill Time currently owns Valis.

Awww.......

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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Tue 06 Nov 2007, 2:01 pm

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you see.. Telenet is... or was able to produce super 3D PS2 games, but they chose the worst type of games to develop (I guess all developers are really old now, that's why they make games for old people lol )
possibly you're right... maybe they decided to not hire younger people with fresh and new ideas.. and they just couldn't think on anything new... meh
but there's also another possibility... Rolling Eyes

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is there any one in here plays golf (either in real or video game) ugh
I don't even consider golf as a game or sport, it's nothing, it's silly ugh
lol Ha, ha, ha, ha!!!

I agree! lol
but many people enjoys such game, also a lot of money is involved.. I don't know why.... lol

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yeah... that was a PS2 game ugh .. they prefered developing something like that instead of something similar to Valis ugh
if they have been producing lately such games, that's no-wondering why Telenet closed

such games will never have a lot of fans, they were just made to earn easy money by doing something cheap and quick sell....

in this case, it is better for Valis that Telenet closed... mad
could you imagine more sequels of Valis Cross!? ugh

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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Tue 06 Nov 2007, 9:23 pm

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Interesting, according to their website, (still up!) Telenet Japan Co. LTD was established on October 27, 1958. I wonder what they did back then?

Most likely card based games and/or Pachinko.

Nintendo has been around since the 1860's.

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What Wikipedia said about Telenet Rolling Eyes

take a look:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenet_Japan

if you can notice in that link, Telenet was able to produce a well-designed great-graphics amazing-sounds PS2 games (but as I told you, they were very stupid silly games)

take a look at the official trailer of that stupid golf game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1YDG5Q_Yeg

and this is another video of the gameplay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo-WGVhYBQY

you see.. Telenet is... or was able to produce super 3D PS2 games, but they chose the worst type of games to develop (I guess all developers are really old now, that's why they make games for old people lol )

is there any one in here plays golf (either in real or video game) ugh

I don't even consider golf as a game or sport, it's nothing, it's silly ugh



wait.. take alook at another game developed by Telenet.. another PS2 game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwulphFF1rk

yeah... that was a PS2 game ugh .. they prefered developing something like that instead of something similar to Valis ugh



if they have been producing lately such games, that's no-wondering why Telenet closed

Well, for starters, that golf game looks like a poor man's version of Hot Shot's Golf, which, I'll admit, I played the hell out of on the PSX (and I'm by no means a golf fan nor will I ever be).

As for that Mahjong game, I dunno, I thought adding the pics of Asian women seemed like such a sell out thing to do. Laughing

For shame, Telenet! Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Thu 08 Nov 2007, 12:25 am

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Well, for starters, that golf game looks like a poor man's version of Hot Shot's Golf, which, I'll admit, I played the hell out of on the PSX (and I'm by no means a golf fan nor will I ever be).

As for that Mahjong game, I dunno, I thought adding the pics of Asian women seemed like such a sell out thing to do. Laughing

For shame, Telenet! Twisted Evil

let me summerize what you want to say about Telenet in one word: "Idiots"



you know, now I think of it, it's really really really stupid for Telenet to produce Valis X just for some quick money.

it's like... it's like.. you are in debt and have alot to pay, but you can't pay all the money.. so, you ask your wife to be a b**** in hotels to get some money for this big amont of debt ugh

that's what happen between Telenet and Valis
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Thu 08 Nov 2007, 2:16 am

Actuallynintento was1880's well i could be wrong.

WELL! WELL! WELL! Telenet died as well as Working Designs. sad
That serves them right for trying to make a hentai game of valis instead of continuing the series. Valis was there Telenets HOLY GRAIL....i think! It spawned of through many consoles regardless of the mediocre ports of the original BTW i love them all now not ValisX which was thier Achilles Heel. Ruining the game like that. I can understand the fanpic version. But a game? Telenet just got sloppy whth their creativity. See if only they responded to my e-mail.

*punches telenet in the face* *THWAK* ow
*Peirce their eyes* eyegouge

YOU HAVE SINNED AGAINST YOUR FANS AND YOU MUST BE PURGED!...........................OOOOOPPS! they are dead! eh

.....We had high hopes for this company it hurts people who love this series as a child or the once who was not born. I mean i was hoping they would make the DS version of the mobile phone with better graphics.
ARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!! *punches the ground* mad I need to calm down! im tiredi'll rant later tired
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Thu 08 Nov 2007, 12:47 pm

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it's like... it's like.. you are in debt and have alot to pay, but you can't pay all the money.. so, you ask your wife to be a b**** in hotels to get some money for this big amont of debt ugh

that's what happen between Telenet and Valis

I agree!!! chu

they could have accepted death instead of betraying their creations or sell their ladies as wh*res...!!!!! mad
they could have died like Warriors... but they chose death for money...

It's Telenet the ones who became b****s... it was them who sold their bodies!!! it was them who were the ones raped!!!!

Valis Ladies.... they are True Warriors. Arrogant


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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Thu 08 Nov 2007, 12:57 pm

sad Im calmed! They just ruined the best thing for valis i mean how could they? I mean i really wantto play that valis mobile game.
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Fri 09 Nov 2007, 2:13 pm

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I mean i really wantto play that valis mobile game.
Look at the bright side... sunny

possibly they would continued producing h-games... even for mobiles...

I think it's much better they sold the rights to someone who cares for them... happy
also, there's always the chance of someone cracking the game... and allow us to play it!!! wink

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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Fri 09 Nov 2007, 2:32 pm

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I think it's much better they sold the rights to someone who cares for them... :happy
also, there's always the chance of someone cracking the game... and allow us to play it!!! wink
And when we do,we'll be downloading it. HEHEHE cherry
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sat 10 Nov 2007, 1:20 pm

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I mean i really wantto play that valis mobile game.
Look at the bright side... sunny

possibly they would continued producing h-games... even for mobiles...

I think it's much better they sold the rights to someone who cares for them... happy
also, there's always the chance of someone cracking the game... and allow us to play it!!! wink

Or, perhaps, the people who mad La-Mulana could just make a remake of it like they did Maze of Galious.

Then again, Valis was never an MSX game....

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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sat 10 Nov 2007, 2:16 pm

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Then again, Valis was never an MSX game....
Actually it was originally then again..... Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sat 10 Nov 2007, 4:27 pm

True, I meant the phone game though. Shoulda been more specific.

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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Fri 15 Feb 2008, 3:38 pm

After seeing all the crap that Telenet have been pulling after Valis X, I will be sharing my hatred with Telenet...That I've found Telenet guilty of all charges for the murder of Yuko Asho's carreer. The f-tard who came up with the idea in the first place of turning a most popular franchise they have into a pile of feces...I just hope that the person never get a job in other video gaming company...I just hope that either people from Riot or anyone who have suffered from Telenet's crap should revive the franchise and give the licence to a trustworthy company...
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Fri 15 Feb 2008, 9:40 pm

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True, I meant the phone game though. Shoulda been more specific.

Yeah i mean why didn't they just port it to the DS or PSP?
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sun 17 Feb 2008, 6:26 pm

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I just hope that either people from Riot or anyone who have suffered from Telenet's crap should revive the franchise and give the licence to a trustworthy company...

*cough* DANSOFT*cough*



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Yeah i mean why didn't they just port it to the DS or PSP?

Its up to us, the people, to do that for them. And while we do this, we will NOT share the profit! >.>

*realizes that's impossible*

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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sun 04 May 2008, 1:51 am

guys, I've just learnt that the official Valis comic by ZOL reached vol 11 Exclamation seems like Reiko is trying to save Yuko of Valis 3 meh ?
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sun 04 May 2008, 9:53 am

@evilReiko: Sounds like a whole lotta V2 going down. That's the only time I cn remember Reiko trying to save Yuko. XD And it wouldn't surprise me if that's that's going on since most manga aren't more than maybe 10-15 volumes long. Valis has a lot, though, so I'm wondering if it'll rival DBZ, Inuyasha, or Naruto in size. Perhaps bigger if they're still on V1 on Vol. 11. Surprised

@topic: I tend to differentiate New Telenet (post-Wolf Team) and Old Telenet (in-Wolf Team) and I'm disappointed in New Telenet. Good riddance to those ignorant, self-centered bastards with no sense of shame. However, for Old Telenet, I'll hunt down any games left and right, good or bad, produced and/or released by them or one of the subsidiaries (like Renovation). I've already got a few, such as Beast Wrestler and Arrow Flash, but I'm still hunting more. That said, Wolf Team, however they may be together and/or scattered today, will always live on and produce high-quality games.
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sun 04 May 2008, 11:57 am

Anyone knows where we can download de ZOL manga? sad eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sun 04 May 2008, 1:25 pm

I don't think you can find this manga anywhere on the net, you will have to buy it. but there is vol.1 available for free online viewing:

http://www.comic-valkyrie.com/main/comics/vc012/preload.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Sun 04 May 2008, 8:10 pm

this was a really poor attempt in trying to recover the company. At the same time they have tarnished the Valis series with a hentai game. what a disappointment. Sad I'm really hoping that one day some company will come along and take the valis franchise and make a fantastic sequel to Valis. Just like what happen to Contra with WayForward.
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Mon 05 May 2008, 4:22 am

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guys, I've just learnt that the official Valis comic by ZOL reached vol 11 Exclamation seems like Reiko is trying to save Yuko of Valis 3 meh ?
that's right... I guess XYXZYZ has forgotten to bring new info... happy
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Tue 16 Dec 2008, 5:32 pm

evilReiko wrote:
I don't think you can find this manga anywhere on the net, you will have to buy it. but there is vol.1 available for free online viewing:

http://www.comic-valkyrie.com/main/comics/vc012/preload.htm

Why hasn't anyone put it up on any Manga sites? Can you find them on Ebay?
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PostSubject: Re: Telenet Japan has folded.   Thu 25 Dec 2008, 6:32 pm

.... scratch
well... if any ofs ever find it... will we be shring it??? meh

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