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Kraven School Student
Number of posts : 3 Age : 31 Registration date : 2008-11-12
| Subject: Mongoose following the Viper Tue 18 Nov 2008, 12:32 am | |
| Well... I guess I'm in a tight spot with this whole thing... I've never played any of the Valis games, and I've only heard tiny bits and pieces from things like SRS's review (which I hear is pretty accurate ) and my good friend Zeloz. Now, Can you give me some heads up on where I might be able to play some of these games? | |
| | | evilReiko Dark Valis Soldier
Number of posts : 1050 Age : 37 Location : Darkest region of DarkWorld Hobbies : Escape.. Registration date : 2007-07-08
| Subject: Re: Mongoose following the Viper Tue 18 Nov 2008, 1:53 am | |
| visit Dreamworld, it's a small Valis site with almost all Valis games, built by our hacker friend Silver X In my opinion, I suggest starting with Valis 1 (the Genesis version), although Valis 1 (the PC Engine) is better in terms of graphics, music, and sound effects, but in terms of gameplay, I prefer the genesis version | |
| | | Soldier Lena’s Dreams Bearer
Number of posts : 516 Age : 46 Location : Back on the Reddish Moon.... Job : duh.... Umbrella Corportation...?? Hobbies : No time left... to hell with work! Registration date : 2007-07-08
| Subject: Re: Mongoose following the Viper Tue 25 Nov 2008, 2:40 am | |
| You may also try downloading the games on their english version, and play them with some emulators... there are lot of pages where you may find the games... I don't remember where I downloaded my games from, but you may check: http://www.rom-world.com/http://www.freeroms.com/ Evil Reiko is right, you must play first Genesis version... it was the first game after all... | |
| | | ZeLoz (akaBill) Valis Fantasm Soldier (Armor: Level 1)
Number of posts : 120 Age : 31 Location : In Another Time, In Another Dimension Job : Cart Pusher Hobbies : Game collecting, writing, reading, and quietly being a general nuisance. Registration date : 2008-09-09
| Subject: Re: Mongoose following the Viper Tue 25 Nov 2008, 9:56 am | |
| - Soldier wrote:
- Evil Reiko is right, you must play first Genesis version...
it was the first game after all... Actually, that title goes to the PC-88 version, but I would advise you avoid this version. Besides, it's on a Japanese PC, which is harder to emulate than a game system. So... yeah. The Genesis version was the first version that sorta mattered... unless you like the Famicom version or something. | |
| | | evilReiko Dark Valis Soldier
Number of posts : 1050 Age : 37 Location : Darkest region of DarkWorld Hobbies : Escape.. Registration date : 2007-07-08
| | | | TurboYuko16 Vecanti Soldier
Number of posts : 88 Age : 32 Location : Hell Job : Me? A job? Are you kidding? Hobbies : Never being here :P Registration date : 2008-12-14
| Subject: Re: Mongoose following the Viper Mon 15 Dec 2008, 9:09 pm | |
| - evilReiko wrote:
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In my opinion, I suggest starting with Valis 1 (the Genesis version), although Valis 1 (the PC Engine) is better in terms of graphics, music, and sound effects, but in terms of gameplay, I prefer the genesis version ...PC Engine = Turbografx 16, right? You see, even though I am a fan of the game, I know NOTHING about it. Except that Reiko dies, but um...That's like what, the opening sequence? Funny thing is, I only remember the first two seconds or so of the opening...(the second one, the only one I've ever played...) And I wish I could find a description of each level or whatever so I know how far I got. That is, if I remember... It's just been so long... I'd also like to know what each game was for. If they're all on the Genisis....I'm lucky...Unless my grandma decides to give THAT to my cousins too! | |
| | | ZeLoz (akaBill) Valis Fantasm Soldier (Armor: Level 1)
Number of posts : 120 Age : 31 Location : In Another Time, In Another Dimension Job : Cart Pusher Hobbies : Game collecting, writing, reading, and quietly being a general nuisance. Registration date : 2008-09-09
| Subject: Re: Mongoose following the Viper Mon 15 Dec 2008, 11:17 pm | |
| Well, concerning American releases, we got Valis 1, Valis III, and Valis SD (Known as Syd of Valis in the American release) for the Genesis. There's Valis II and III for the American TurboGraphix-CD, but I would personally avoid them because of the iffy translation (In the American Valis II, the Sword of Valis is sometimes called the "Sword of Vari") and cringe-worthy voice acting. Finally, for the Super Nintendo, we have Super Valis IV, following the events of the resistance warrior Lena, who follows in the footsteps of Yuko as a Fantasm Soldier. Now, if you're into imports, you might want to check out the Japanese versions of the games I just mentioned for a few reasons (Jap Valis III for the Genesis has a sound test, Jap Super Valis IV has an easy mode, and the American Valis SD not only has an outrageously bad translation, but they renamed the heroine to Syd for no reason and forgot to translate the Game Over screen and Credits). I'd also check out the Japanese exclusive Valis games, like the Remake of Valis I for the TurboGraphix-CD (You'll need a Super CD system card, though) and Valis IV, also for the TurboGraphix-CD (has multiple playable characters, unlike the SNES version). There was also a Famicom Valis game out there, but it plays a bit like Metroid and notoriously hard, I think. And yes, TurboGraphix-16=PC Engine. In fact, so I won't have to do it later on, I'll list some American systems and their Japanese counterparts, cuz I feel like it. NES=Famicom Genesis=Mega Drive SNES=Super Famicom Umm... that's all I can think of for now. See, and you thought your posts were long | |
| | | Shadow Blade Valis Fantasm Soldier (Armor: Level 3)
Number of posts : 311 Age : 38 Location : Nowhere Job : What's a job? Hobbies : Photoshop coloring and writting fics. Registration date : 2008-02-11
| Subject: Re: Mongoose following the Viper Mon 15 Dec 2008, 11:46 pm | |
| Don't forget in American version of Valis III for TurboGrafx, Glames has renamed to Ramses... The big diference on Super Valis IV (SNES/American version) with Super Valis - Akaki Tsuki no Otome ("The maiden from the red moon" I'm not sure if this is the correct traslation... Super Famicom/Japanese version) is the difficult: Japanese version is TOO easy in Hard Mode mean the American version has more difficult, the story in both it's the same, but isn't the same with respect to the original Valis IV for PC-Engine... (well, some parts like the boss and the stages are the same, but... Rena received the Valis Sword from Yuko since the beginning!!!) | |
| | | ZeLoz (akaBill) Valis Fantasm Soldier (Armor: Level 1)
Number of posts : 120 Age : 31 Location : In Another Time, In Another Dimension Job : Cart Pusher Hobbies : Game collecting, writing, reading, and quietly being a general nuisance. Registration date : 2008-09-09
| Subject: Re: Mongoose following the Viper Mon 15 Dec 2008, 11:56 pm | |
| - Shadow Blade wrote:
- Super Valis - Akaki Tsuki no Otome ("The maiden from the red moon" I'm not sure if this is the correct traslation... Super Famicom/Japanese version)
I believe it was Super Valis - Akai Tsuki no Otome, which literally translates to "Maiden of the Red Moon." Yeah, you're just about right, SoldierBlade-sempai. And Lena/Rena gets the Valis sword halfway through the TurboGraphix version, but starts with it in the SNES version. Just clarifying... | |
| | | TurboYuko16 Vecanti Soldier
Number of posts : 88 Age : 32 Location : Hell Job : Me? A job? Are you kidding? Hobbies : Never being here :P Registration date : 2008-12-14
| Subject: Re: Mongoose following the Viper Tue 16 Dec 2008, 5:09 pm | |
| - ZeLoz (akaBill) wrote:
- Well, concerning American releases, we got Valis 1, Valis III, and Valis SD (Known as Syd of Valis in the American release) for the Genesis. There's Valis II and III for the American TurboGraphix-CD, but I would personally avoid them because of the iffy translation (In the American Valis II, the Sword of Valis is sometimes called the "Sword of Vari") and cringe-worthy voice acting. Finally, for the Super Nintendo, we have Super Valis IV, following the events of the resistance warrior Lena, who follows in the footsteps of Yuko as a Fantasm Soldier.
Now, if you're into imports, you might want to check out the Japanese versions of the games I just mentioned for a few reasons (Jap Valis III for the Genesis has a sound test, Jap Super Valis IV has an easy mode, and the American Valis SD not only has an outrageously bad translation, but they renamed the heroine to Syd for no reason and forgot to translate the Game Over screen and Credits). I'd also check out the Japanese exclusive Valis games, like the Remake of Valis I for the TurboGraphix-CD (You'll need a Super CD system card, though) and Valis IV, also for the TurboGraphix-CD (has multiple playable characters, unlike the SNES version). There was also a Famicom Valis game out there, but it plays a bit like Metroid and notoriously hard, I think.
And yes, TurboGraphix-16=PC Engine. In fact, so I won't have to do it later on, I'll list some American systems and their Japanese counterparts, cuz I feel like it.
NES=Famicom Genesis=Mega Drive SNES=Super Famicom Umm... that's all I can think of for now.
See, and you thought your posts were long Of course I had (had...HAD!!! ) the CD card! Couldn't have played Valis II without it. Were any of them for the Turbo not CD? Sadly, the CD port-thing stopped working, so I couldn't play any of the CD games. (lemme see if I can remember them...Japanese Valis II, Monster Lair, The Addams Family, Jpanese Manhole, Ys something, I can't remember which one, I never played it, um...I think that was it...And the card ones were Splatterhouse, Keith Courage in Alpha Zones, Bonk's Adventure, Dungeon Explorer, Dragon Spirit, some Pacman game, a few sports games, and a game about the kid in a maze who digs holes and the enemies fall in them...Don't remeber the name....) So I think you might have mentioned the games and whta they're for, but lazy me wants them in the format you did the systems to their counterparts...And as for those, the only one I didn't know was Genesis and Mega Drive. What I don't understand is why change system names? Especially this one...Famicom=family computer, AMERICAN words. Nintendo=....I have no idea. XD | |
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