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evilReiko wrote:
Yuko of Valis 1 pixel fan-art from pixiv.net cheers
Enjoy Smile

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Wow!

This looks like it could be for an HD Valis reboot.
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More new pics Smile

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Yuko of Valis 1 in Valis 2 wearing Reiko's armor chu
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From Garakutaten
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More fan-art from pixiv.net cheers

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Very nice pics---all of them cheers .
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I found a quite interesting review about Valis I ! Shocked The review contains rare pics of Valis I Famicom Version Bosses!! chu

http://www.giantbomb.com/valis-the-fantasm-soldier/61-6510/
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evilReiko wrote:
I found a quite interesting review about Valis I ! Shocked The review contains rare pics of Valis I Famicom Version Bosses!! chu

http://www.giantbomb.com/valis-the-fantasm-soldier/61-6510/

That's neat and it also mentions the famicom version of Valis. I've watched the Valis Famicom version on YouTube, the music was pretty good for a 8-bit game.
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Here's another new one from pixiv.net again Surprised

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evilReiko wrote:
Here's another new one from pixiv.net again Surprised

Spoiler:

Awesome as always absolutely chu happy heart !
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New fan-art found in pixiv.net Surprised

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evilReiko wrote:
New fan-art found in pixiv.net Surprised

Spoiler:
Spoiler:

Cool pictures...looks like Reiko and Athena (I think it's Athena) bairly have any armor---still it's a nice picture though. Also I like the picture of Yuko afro .
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HAHAHA, nice picture, they're are:

Yuko from Valis
Yohko from Genmu Senki Leda
Warrior Woman from Dragon Quest
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4 New fan-art images from pixiv.net Very Happy
Enjoy Smile

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evilReiko wrote:
4 New fan-art images from pixiv.net Very Happy
Enjoy Smile

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Those are great but this one's cool cause it looks like it could be it's own game character happy heart .
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I don't know why, but I like this one the most for some reason. lol

Possibly because it shows Yuko's and Reiko's atheletic side.
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And this here is a pretty portrayal of Yuko. happy
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I like the one with Yuko of Valis 1 and Reiko, Reiko looks so beautiful ^3^

One more uploaded to pixiv.net just today Chu

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Hahaha, Pixelated lol but cool! chu

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that is a awsome bead art no Valna art? hmmm
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Valis77 wrote:
that is a awsome bead art no Valna art? hmmm

Chant with me---Fewer Yuko of Valis 1 more more Valna ...!
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Lord Adrian wrote:
Valis77 wrote:
that is a awsome bead art no Valna art? hmmm

Chant with me---Fewer Yuko of Valis 1 more more Valna ...!

Okay... "Fewer Yuko of Valis 1 more more Valna ...!"

Hey... I just noticed something. Where are the Asfal fanarts ? I like pretty girls too, but come on... the man went to battle against his own son... he's huge... and he can walk on SPIKES. SPIKES! You know that's epic.
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Not to sound snobish or rude, but there is a reason as to why there are more fanarts of Yuko of Valis 3 than Valna . And it's rather simple. Make that a few reasons but one is more major.

One, Yuko of Valis 3 was the first main character and appeared in every single Valis game. Playable in all except the IV games, but still appeared in them regardless. (Is playable as an alternate color in Super Valis IV, so virtually only ONE game she wasn't playable.)

Valna First appeared in Valis II, BUT did she really do anything in it? Not really. She was considered just the next in line for the throne in one of the versions of Valis 2. While in the other version that's canon, she's Yuko's sister, and some fans were probably like "Wow, ain't she the lucky one." Not that I'm against her but hear me out of how the situation went.

Yuko, was sent to the human world, lived a human life up to a certain point. She winds up getting forced on a venture to save the world, killing her friend in the process. Afterwards she gets hunted cause Rogles' forces wanted her sword so they aren't slaughtered by Megas. That's three problems she's had to deal with. She meets Valna after their mother is killed and Valna doesn't virtually does diddly. The only thing she did helpful in some ways was Yuko's new armor. Who promplty ditched it at the end of Valis 2.

Essentially the meeting of the two sisters went like this.

Yuko of Valis 3 "Wha...you...you're my sister?"

Valna "I feel sort of the same way. But since I'm the princess, I'll stay here and rule, take this armor and slay Megas like a good little sister."

Yuko of Valis 3 "WHAT!?!?! We just met and you don't even want to try and relate?!?!?!"

Valna "Nope. I'm more worried about the kingdom than anymore family relations."

Yuko of Valis 3 "......if I make is through this I'm soooo gonna bean you."

Probably a tad exagerated, but probably close to how some gamers felt after those two met.

Valis 3 roles around, Yuko still lived her life like a normal human, despite all she's been through, while Valna sits happily on her mother's throne until Glames rolls around. And she doesn't even do anything until either Yuko or Cham saves her royal butt. True she promtly gets payback on the one who captured her, but it didn't exactly boost her popularity none. And when the attack bar isn't at it's fullest and has the speed booster, she's essentially useless as her attack does very little damage. Also the fact she comes off as a mage character probably didn't exactly help much as mages are very hard to actually use affectively. Like in RPGs and Action RPGs. Not exactly a highly favored class in a platformer.

Also the fact that she's fully captured in Valis IV, only furthered trouble.

I'm not saying she's a bad character, but I'm just saying she has a lot against her in terms of fandom and who they favor more. As things clearly stand from the fanarts and such, most perfer Yuko and Cham, which only further proves that they hardly touched Valna.(If you're thinking of the other touch, shame on you. mad )

Just something I figured best be put into proper perspective. Valna isn't exactly the most favored character in the Valis series for various reasons. Not saying I share these reasons, but they are quite apparent.

So, as much as you yourself like Valna Valis77, it ain't exactly gonna change everyone elses views. And saying we need more Valna fanart ain't gonna change it much either. All the artists favor Yuko, Reiko, and Cham cause they're the ones you see right away. Valna barely gets much mention at all. Doesn't appear in Valis 1, not even a hint yet.(Course she wasn't thought up yet.) Yuko and Reiko are seen in the openings of both versions of Valis 1 and 2, and Reiko even saves Yuko in a version of Valis 2.

Cham appears in the very intro and opening stage of Valis 3, and quickly becomes playable. So, she's favored more than Valna, and also she's like a Belmont sort of. At least someone on another site compared her to Simon Belmont. Understandable, she shares almost the same coloring, and the fact she uses a whip that gets stronger, and also uses items in Castlevania fashion sort of.(I.E. hold up then attack.)

Valna doesn't become playable until a few stages later, and if you die on the boss with her, VERY hard time with just one punny little magic ball.

Those are the more official reasons as to why there are more fanarts of Yuko, Reiko, and Cham, and very few Valna. As likely gamers didn't have to fond of memories with her. Just what I can gather and put into perspective.

(Love the psot alert feature.)

In regards to Asfal , not very many people have played Valis IV. Not sure as to why he isn't drawn, but then again, his look is a tad complicated to replicte without him looking like a mess. Not an easy look to replicate.
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Mega Man model T 101 wrote:
In regards to Asfal , not very many people have played Valis IV. Not sure as to why he isn't drawn, but then again, his look is a tad complicated to replicte without him looking like a mess. Not an easy look to replicate.

Very true. I just realized for the first time reading Lord Adrian's post that I haven't seen any fanarts of him. A shame not many are familiar with Valis IV too Evil or Very Mad
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Mega Man model T 101 wrote:
Not to sound snobish or rude, but there is a reason as to why there are more fanarts of Yuko of Valis 3 than Valna . And it's rather simple. Make that a few reasons but one is more major.

One, Yuko of Valis 3 was the first main character and appeared in every single Valis game. Playable in all except the IV games, but still appeared in them regardless. (Is playable as an alternate color in Super Valis IV, so virtually only ONE game she wasn't playable.)

Valna First appeared in Valis II, BUT did she really do anything in it? Not really. She was considered just the next in line for the throne in one of the versions of Valis 2. While in the other version that's canon, she's Yuko's sister, and some fans were probably like "Wow, ain't she the lucky one." Not that I'm against her but hear me out of how the situation went.

Yuko, was sent to the human world, lived a human life up to a certain point. She winds up getting forced on a venture to save the world, killing her friend in the process. Afterwards she gets hunted cause Rogles' forces wanted her sword so they aren't slaughtered by Megas. That's three problems she's had to deal with. She meets Valna after their mother is killed and Valna doesn't virtually does diddly. The only thing she did helpful in some ways was Yuko's new armor. Who promplty ditched it at the end of Valis 2.

Essentially the meeting of the two sisters went like this.

Yuko of Valis 3 "Wha...you...you're my sister?"

Valna "I feel sort of the same way. But since I'm the princess, I'll stay here and rule, take this armor and slay Megas like a good little sister."

Yuko of Valis 3 "WHAT!?!?! We just met and you don't even want to try and relate?!?!?!"

Valna "Nope. I'm more worried about the kingdom than anymore family relations."

Yuko of Valis 3 "......if I make is through this I'm soooo gonna bean you."

Probably a tad exagerated, but probably close to how some gamers felt after those two met.

Valis 3 roles around, Yuko still lived her life like a normal human, despite all she's been through, while Valna sits happily on her mother's throne until Glames rolls around. And she doesn't even do anything until either Yuko or Cham saves her royal butt. True she promtly gets payback on the one who captured her, but it didn't exactly boost her popularity none. And when the attack bar isn't at it's fullest and has the speed booster, she's essentially useless as her attack does very little damage. Also the fact she comes off as a mage character probably didn't exactly help much as mages are very hard to actually use affectively. Like in RPGs and Action RPGs. Not exactly a highly favored class in a platformer.

Also the fact that she's fully captured in Valis IV, only furthered trouble.

I'm not saying she's a bad character, but I'm just saying she has a lot against her in terms of fandom and who they favor more. As things clearly stand from the fanarts and such, most perfer Yuko and Cham, which only further proves that they hardly touched Valna.(If you're thinking of the other touch, shame on you. mad )

Just something I figured best be put into proper perspective. Valna isn't exactly the most favored character in the Valis series for various reasons. Not saying I share these reasons, but they are quite apparent.

So, as much as you yourself like Valna Valis77, it ain't exactly gonna change everyone elses views. And saying we need more Valna fanart ain't gonna change it much either. All the artists favor Yuko, Reiko, and Cham cause they're the ones you see right away. Valna barely gets much mention at all. Doesn't appear in Valis 1, not even a hint yet.(Course she wasn't thought up yet.) Yuko and Reiko are seen in the openings of both versions of Valis 1 and 2, and Reiko even saves Yuko in a version of Valis 2.

Cham appears in the very intro and opening stage of Valis 3, and quickly becomes playable. So, she's favored more than Valna, and also she's like a Belmont sort of. At least someone on another site compared her to Simon Belmont. Understandable, she shares almost the same coloring, and the fact she uses a whip that gets stronger, and also uses items in Castlevania fashion sort of.(I.E. hold up then attack.)

Valna doesn't become playable until a few stages later, and if you die on the boss with her, VERY hard time with just one punny little magic ball.

Those are the more official reasons as to why there are more fanarts of Yuko, Reiko, and Cham, and very few Valna. As likely gamers didn't have to fond of memories with her. Just what I can gather and put into perspective.

(Love the psot alert feature.)

In regards to Asfal , not very many people have played Valis IV. Not sure as to why he isn't drawn, but then again, his look is a tad complicated to replicte without him looking like a mess. Not an easy look to replicate.



actually i was not comparing her to yuko,but to other characteres >_> theres no excuse to not have her just be a little fanbase,because she is important to the story as well why else have her there. Me loving not liking Valna is not the issue here. Example there are other games that have minor characters that are there for no apperent reason but the fanbase is big. So im not complaning or demand "I ASK" Just for the record "Your Wrong" it changed peoples view on how much i like valna otherwise they would not do it for me or anyone else. You havnt been in this board long enough to see the diffrence when i asked for a Valna pic i got like 5 or 6 diffrent pics of her from diffrent people on the net ,you need to get out more Razz . The problem is that they should put more effort on her as well not to much as a random relative;
Valna: Hey Im your twin sister?
Yuko: oh ok! im not alone then YAY ME!

Telenet: Moving on!

I mean she was there from Valis II to IV. Valna she was....on a throne getting kidnapped.......thats cliche oooook i see where this would make since now. Cham deserves more fanbase as well im not just a Valna lover i love other characters like amu again no know about her because she was only in the valis 4 the japanese version so she has a little to no fanbase the Valna and Lena. But this changes nothing. Bottom line there are more fanbase arts i just havnt found them...Thats telenets' fault for dropping the ball in general i mean they could have done betterits a overlooked game after all so who cares right? ^_^


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Actually lots of Valis characters are underrated pale

If we try to make a top-list by gathering fans opinions, final result may come like this:

1. Yuko of Valis 1 comes first
2. Reiko Lena Cham come almost equivalently second + Sword of Valis itself if we consider it as a character come also second LOL
3. Other allies (like Valna Valia Asfal Ahm Nizetti etc) and Final bosses (Rogles Megas Glames Garugia) come third
4. Main Generals (like Izard and Heizen) and Non-combat Generals (like Leigh the fortune-teller of Glames) go fourth
5. Sub-bosses
6. common enemies go last

Characters on number 3 and 4 are quite lovable and fan-able, but in the game there are so many characters, alot to tell about the story itself (in each game), and little cutscenes to display = because of that, these characters got less roles

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About Asfal:
Valis 4 Designers thought "Glames was a good and cool character, lets make him playable in Valis 4"
..which resulted in designing Asfal to look very much like Glames
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Valis77 and Megaman, as for why appearance of Valna in the end of Valis 2:

If you played Valis II (X68000 English version), you will notice that the story main focus is about Valia vs Megas. based on their roles of Valis II X68000 story:

1. Valia Megas Yuko of Valis 1 come first
2. Reiko comes second
3. Generals (including non-combat generals) and allies come third
4. Sub-bosses come fourth

Valia got really fan-lized in Valis II X68000 (and personally, I favourite Valia alot chu she's my second favourite character happy eyes), the designers/programmers thought that she can't just die and disappear if we're going to make Valis 3, so we should prepare: either revive her (and make her a returning character) or make a character that looks very much like her, which their choice was the 2nd option and resulted in the appearance of Valna

If Telenet could break the rule of "he/she is dead but we can still use this character in the next sequal", Valis 3 main playable heroines would be Yuko of Valis 1 Reiko Valia... isn't it?

Telenet: "But.. Reiko and Valia are dead Exclamation Question well.. at least we made a clone of Valia for Valis 3, but about Reiko scratch? That's no issue, we will make one that looks very much like her and give her some ass-kicking role wink"

Telenet: "So now we have Yuko of Valis 1 Reiko-clone Valia-clone for Valis 3, problem solved!! Fans will buy this game like crazies, this game will make us millionairs!! Chu "
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And when the attack bar isn't at it's fullest and has the speed booster, she's essentially useless as her attack does very little damage. Also the fact she comes off as a mage character probably didn't exactly help much as mages are very hard to actually use affectively. Like in RPGs and Action RPGs. Not exactly a highly favored class in a platformer.


Besides megaman Valna as a playable character is for advance players and her attack has a great advantage in the game sure there are times where i'll never use her because some points she has a disadvantage,i mean did you see my stream of this game? if not then this is the reason you dont pick her at all. Hence you stated making her not highly favored. You are not utilizing her abilities at the fullest. This is just me,but i find that insulting, i use all of them evenly but i use valna more because im advance in playing her. i seen no one in YT would as her all the time again, that pisses me off but then again we all cant like the same things.
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Valis77 wrote:
Besides megaman Valna as a playable character is for advance players and her attack has a great advantage in the game sure there are times where i'll never use her because some points she has a disadvantage,i mean did you see my stream of this game? if not then this is the reason you dont pick her at all. Hence you stated making her not highly favored. You are not utilizing her abilities at the fullest. This is just me,but i find that insulting, i use all of them evenly but i use valna more because im advance in playing her. i seen no one in YT would as her all the time again, that pisses me off but then again we all cant like the same things.

In Valis 3 every character can use magic (Fire,Ice or Light), but since Valna is a mage herself, she has the most powerful magic spells chu and as you said, the player has to play the game using different characters to process.

btw guys, did anyone notice that Cham sprites was a remake of a common enemy in Valis I??

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evilReiko wrote:
btw guys, did anyone notice that Cham sprites was a remake of a common enemy in Valis I??

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So interesting you should mention that! Shocked I was working on my French translation of Valis 1 lately and just noticed that yesterday for the first time!

Also, I never saw Cham as a substitute for Reiko before, but that's very possible.

And I missed the Valis stream, didn't I Mad Totally forgot to show up. sad eyes
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And I missed the Valis stream, didn't I Mad Totally forgot to show up. sad eyes

Well, that's a shame. Bad voice acting is best enjoyed with company. Smile
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Valis77 wrote:
Besides megaman Valna as a playable character is for advance players and her attack has a great advantage in the game sure there are times where i'll never use her because some points she has a disadvantage,i mean did you see my stream of this game? if not then this is the reason you dont pick her at all. Hence you stated making her not highly favored. You are not utilizing her abilities at the fullest. This is just me,but i find that insulting, i use all of them evenly but i use valna more because im advance in playing her. i seen no one in YT would as her all the time again, that pisses me off but then again we all cant like the same things.

In Valis 3 every character can use magic (Fire,Ice or Light), but since Valna is a mage herself, she has the most powerful magic spells chu and as you said, the player has to play the game using different characters to process.

btw guys, did anyone notice that Cham sprites was a remake of a common enemy in Valis I??

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when i streamed this i noticed as well. Im thinking there the same race
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Hmmm, same race? Seems a bit of a stretch.

Let's take a closer look.

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If you'll note, Cham has long pointed ears like an elf. Do you see that on the enemy sprite? You can't say it's hidden by her hair. Look at Deedlit, or any other elf or elf-like being, most have long hair and the ears clearly stick out of it.

But of course, that doesn't change the fact it probably inspired Cham's creation. Just saying them being the same race is a tad of a stretch.

And I never really saw Cham as a replacement to Reiko before. Mostly cause subtitues often bear resemblances and characteristics of the one they replace.

Valna is clearly Valia 's replacement. I mean look at them, same haircolor, style, similar robes. Valna Clearly takes after her mother more than Yuko of Valis 3 does. But that doesn't mean she didn't outclass everyone when she became a goddess. razz

But, I can take the substitute a step further.

Lena is obviously Yuko of Valis 3 's substitue, no ifs ands or buts about it. Ahm Is Cham 's replacement, if we were to compare Ahm attack's length to Cham 's whip length, I'm sure we'll see they are almost identical.

Asfal is a bit of a stretch, but clearly is the subtitute for Valna . He uses a staff, and is technically of royalty. But the differences end there as he's an easier powerhouse and moves fairly quick for just what looks like a walk. Might have been easier if he thrust the spear forward simialr to his duck animation, but otherwise he has no real strike against him. He clearly saved Lena and Ahm and stayed with them to settle matters with his son fairly personally.
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