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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sat 12 Dec 2009, 9:50 pm
SuperSailor7 wrote:
I do agree in large part with the rants here, but for the sake of balance, I don't think we need to rail on this author like the devil and take advantage to promote our own fanfics. All I can offer is hopefully constructive criticism, if it takes a turn for the worst I drop it and that's it. I'm not conceited enough to claim I could do much better either. The quality of my work is for others to judge.
May be I've come off a bit harsh. However, I feel the characters shouldn't be at each other's throats all the time. I mean, for instance, Cham and Lena. From the impression I get from the PCE version of Valis 4, Cham may be protective (maybe overprotective) of Lena, but I can't imagine her labeling Lena as a "traitor". Also, Cham is the stubborn type, and would probably do whatever it takes to complete her goals (for instance: steal the Valis Sword from Yuko), but she is not the type to backstab her friends.
Another problem is Leigh has never met Yuko, although she probably had seen her through her scrying.
The third problem, is the person has mixed up some of the characters. As I pointed out before, the person used Lada's picture for Rogles. Now the person's calling Leigh "Zalude".
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Now I'm curious about what kind of exchange took place between EvilReiko and this author. I was assuming they were going to go over these criticisms in their PMs, but I really don't see any evidence in the videos so far.
I'm curious too. I just wonder if I should somehow comment, and how I should frame it.
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sun 13 Dec 2009, 12:24 am
iannafei wrote:
May be I've come off a bit harsh. However, I feel the characters shouldn't be at each other's throats all the time. I mean, for instance, Cham and Lena. From the impression I get from the PCE version of Valis 4, Cham may be protective (maybe overprotective) of Lena, but I can't imagine her labeling Lena as a "traitor". Also, Cham is the stubborn type, and would probably do whatever it takes to complete her goals (for instance: steal the Valis Sword from Yuko), but she is not the type to backstab her friends.
Another problem is Leigh has never met Yuko, although she probably had seen her through her scrying.
The third problem, is the person has mixed up some of the characters. As I pointed out before, the person used Lada's picture for Rogles. Now the person's calling Leigh "Zalude".
Sounds like a big, fat, giant, "DUH!" to me! Those were my other problems, and I see I'm not alone in those. Which further proves my last couple statements. A real fan, would at least have a real good idea as to what he was writing about! This doesn't seem Valis to me.
Oh, one detail I forgot to mention about the male lead. I don't have anything wrong against old guys, really, although I first thought he would be a lot younger than he is, but it might have been an interesting twist. A bit out of place maybe, but an interesting twist.
But GEE WHIZ! What a stinking, pervert! Both of them! The character, and the Author! I mean come on! The guy is clearly older than , I don't know how old, but I think without a single hint of brown or black in his hair or beard, he's clearly in his seventies or something. And what does he have him do? Talk about gross! Even though it was then made obvious that such a relationship was smashed, but still! Him, and Cham? Major, Eewwwwww, BLEEEEHHH! And *BLLLARRRRGG*! The guys stinking old enough to be her grandfather, or father, and he thought he had a chance with her? Pardon me while I puke at the concept, as it makes my stomach hurt just thinking about it!
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sun 13 Dec 2009, 4:52 am
SuperSailor7 wrote:
Now I'm curious about what kind of exchange took place between EvilReiko and this author. I was assuming they were going to go over these criticisms in their PMs, but I really don't see any evidence in the videos so far.
Mega Man model T 101 wrote:
Yeah, I was kind of wondering that myself. I think it was fixed, maybe and one episode, and then he went back to his old style. I'm sorry if I technically ranted how bad his stuff is a lot, but I felt like I wasted time trying to watch the whole thing through. So last video I watched, I skipped a bit, and I don't think I missed much, other than people flying off into tantrums for no real apparent reason.
iannafei wrote:
I'm curious too. I just wonder if I should somehow comment, and how I should frame it.
Everyone's waiting for my reply He's actually a nice guy
In brief..
----- He said he will try his best with his drawing skills (and I believe he did good job with his skills.. even some backgrounds can be noticed was spent sometime to work on)
About the story, he's obviously not a professional story/fanfiction writer. Making all characters look angry,evil,etc. because he likes this type of characters, although it's wrong to make all the characters in the story like that Any non-professional writer will do this mistake easily, and it's not easy to get all characters personalities correctly.
Anyone have watched the anime "Scrapped Princess"? Almost all the characters in that anime have nice/kind/pure-hearted characters even some anime story-writers do this mistake
for example, I'm pretty sure nobody knows what/how thinks/feels as much as I do, while I have no idea what/how thinks/feels! For example, what iannafei said is just new to me about :
iannafei wrote:
May be I've come off a bit harsh. However, I feel the characters shouldn't be at each other's throats all the time. I mean, for instance, Cham and Lena. From the impression I get from the PCE version of Valis 4, Cham may be protective (maybe overprotective) of Lena, but I can't imagine her labeling Lena as a "traitor". Also, Cham is the stubborn type, and would probably do whatever it takes to complete her goals (for instance: steal the Valis Sword from Yuko), but she is not the type to backstab her friends.
because iannafei is a fan of
Most difficult thing about writing a fanfic/story is: getting all characters personalities correctly + twisting events with these characters for the story You may think it's easy, but if you try, it's very difficult (but not impossible). it requires a professional story-writing skills
About mixing characters, that's few ignorant-type of mistakes but it's not very bad mistakes (like mixing.. who's and who's )
iannafei wrote:
The third problem, is the person has mixed up some of the characters. As I pointed out before, the person used Lada's picture for Rogles. Now the person's calling Leigh "Zalude".
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Overall, with his drawing skills and story-writing skills, he's ok... at least he managed to get me thrilled at some points ... and one more time I have to say.. it's better than Valis X
Nicest thing so far said is this , we should help each other to be better :
SuperSailor7 wrote:
I do agree in large part with the rants here, but for the sake of balance, I don't think we need to rail on this author like the devil and take advantage to promote our own fanfics. All I can offer is hopefully constructive criticism.
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Tue 15 Dec 2009, 2:07 am
Huh...
I think I have too much free time in this holydays...
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sun 10 Jan 2010, 3:34 pm
in Soul Calibur IV
And there is another video for THAT animation (Act 2-5 part 3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjX4aWo-cjg I can see it's slightly-slowly improving This video is really short and more thrilling
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sun 10 Jan 2010, 5:25 pm
Oh THAT animation (lol)! Indeed a bit better this time.
Anyway, I like the SCIV video. There's also a sequel:
You probably noticed it--just making sure.
[Um, let me know if I embedded that correctly...]
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Mon 11 Jan 2010, 3:37 am
SuperSailor7 wrote:
You probably noticed it--just making sure.
Guess what, I didn't notice it Thanx for embedding it
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sun 17 Jan 2010, 3:35 am
2 new fanarts found in pixiv.net
vs
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..and
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sun 17 Jan 2010, 4:04 am
another Reiko yuko/megas art....nicely done
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Tue 19 Jan 2010, 4:29 am
oh boy oh boy oh boy another fanart from pixiv.net same artist who drew the last Reiko fanart
Can I have it as my signature? ( just kidding)
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btw, can anyone translate what's saying on the picture? I'm dying to know
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Wed 20 Jan 2010, 11:40 am
evilReiko wrote:
btw, can anyone translate what's saying on the picture? I'm dying to know
Since Japanese has much ambiguous expression, this translation may be strange.
Are you shedding tears for me? I and you finally became intimate friends.
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Wed 20 Jan 2010, 2:33 pm
gorori wrote:
Since Japanese has much ambiguous expression, this translation may be strange.
Thanks gorori for translation
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Are you shedding tears for me? I and you finally became intimate friends.
That's so heart-breaking
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Wed 20 Jan 2010, 2:59 pm
Wow, nice to have a Japanese guy translate stuff for us.
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sat 23 Jan 2010, 12:00 pm
New fanarts found
from FlowerCrown
And these 2 from pixiv.net: This one below is from same artist who drew the last picture I uploaded of reiko (the one above of reiko crying)
And this one from another artist.. a I-don't-know-who's-this character cosplaying
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sat 23 Jan 2010, 2:19 pm
Heeeey! It's the finished version of that one image we found awhile back!
Nice to see it complete!
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Mon 25 Jan 2010, 4:19 am
I like this art because it's detailed
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Mon 25 Jan 2010, 7:42 pm
Awesome; that's like, the only Lena fan art in existence!
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Mon 25 Jan 2010, 9:37 pm
this dude makes my work look like crap
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Tue 26 Jan 2010, 12:39 am
Not really. You have your own drawing style. Everyone does. Some people draw alike, some people don't. Don't feel bad just because his art looks different than yours.
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Tue 26 Jan 2010, 1:24 am
but he's an awesome artist.. I just wanna make some good works.. this dude is something that I really want to achieve as an ilustrator...but my color skills are lame... that's why I have shadowblade to color my works
anyway.. those works are awesome
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Tue 26 Jan 2010, 1:43 am
Well, coloring probably isn't a strong point of mine either. But on subject of art and such, how are the sprites for Valis V coming? Been awhile since anyone talked about that.
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Tue 26 Jan 2010, 2:57 am
Keisuke Nonohara wrote:
this dude makes my work look like crap
Mega Man model T 101 wrote:
Not really. You have your own drawing style. Everyone does. Some people draw alike, some people don't. Don't feel bad just because his art looks different than yours.
Keisuke Nonohara wrote:
but he's an awesome artist.. I just wanna make some good works.. this dude is something that I really want to achieve as an ilustrator...but my color skills are lame... that's why I have shadowblade to color my works
anyway.. those works are awesome
I DO understand your feelings Keisuke very well ! This FlowerCrown artist is just... very experienced! And it's not just about drawing, he's a master sketcher, master inker, and master painter!!
To be honest, he's my idol in drawing manga/anime And one day I will beat him! (I doubt it .. but I will never give up and I'll keep improving my skills )
BTW, it's not even fair to compare his skills to your skills Keisuke or mine. Because even if you compared his art to Valis official artwork, he's far away better! Look:
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Tue 26 Jan 2010, 12:00 pm
Keisuke Nonohara wrote:
that's why I have shadowblade to color my works
You're wrong, I'm not a painter, I can be fics' writter, games' programmer, redhead girls pursuer, terrorist, Sarutori Mikoto-chan's following faithful, pervert and painter, but NEVER a porno star...
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Yeah that's from a Simpsons' funny chapter... Grandpa Simpson rules!
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Tue 26 Jan 2010, 3:38 pm
i've never stated that you were ONLY A PAINTER.
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sun 31 Jan 2010, 12:18 am
Spoiler:
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Sun 31 Jan 2010, 2:39 am
oh boy, that's just so cool, really nice job Shadow Telenet should have recruited you for doing digital art
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Fri 05 Feb 2010, 12:27 am
LOL, thanks, but I think you're exagerating a bit.
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Subject: Re: VALIS IS STILL ALIVE EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL HENTAI ASSAULT! Fri 05 Feb 2010, 1:52 am
BTW Shadow, You should try inking/line-arting with Manga Studio Debut 4. It's really cheap and powerful! It's super easy to ink with Photoshop inking is really stupid <-- for manga inking